Thursday, October 16, 2008

More Quotes Examined

"The [pig's] half-shut eyes were dim with the infinite cynicism of adult life." Explain.

7 comments:

Kevin said...

The pig with it's half-shut eyes means its tired of the infinite cynicism, or the never-ending burden, of adult life.

Sergio said...

The quote, "The [pig's] half-shut eyes were dim with the infinite cynicism of adult life," is a deep quote. It seems to be a suppressed memory of Simon's, for he could have possibly suffered from PTSD, causing the memory of his parents to be hidden. The Lord of the Flies must have triggered this memory, and possibly brought up his knowledge of cynicism. Cynicism also comes from cynic, which could be a person who believes that selfishness motivates human actions and who disbelieves in or minimizes selfless acts or disinterested points of view. This could prove that Simon was not a cynic and was attempting to save the boys from cynicism, but failed at the attempt when he was murdered by all the boys.

Sergio said...

That is a bit like Thomas Hobbes!

This does not count as a blog post, Mrs. Hogshead.

MaRy G. Miller said...

I disagree with Kevin because I don’t think that the pig itself disagrees with adult life but it is basically a concept that Golding is trying to get through to the readers. Since Simon always contradicts what the Lord of the Flies always says, I think this means that Simon does not want to forget the burden of adult supervision because in essence it is what can keep them civilized: rules, laws, order and adult supervision are key things for them to stay as a civilization. Simon is the seeker of truth and with that I agree with Sergio when he says that Simon was trying to save the boys from cynicism and to help start believing in order again.

jesi hayes said...

The part where it mentions the half shut eyes, it means that it is blinded or no longer fully seeing which can also be strengthened for it says they were dim. That can also mean that they no longer have life but have been dulled.
"the infinite cynicim of adult life." This meaning that the pig head does not agree with adult life. In adult's life the truth is sometimes hidden to 'protect' the other's, but when Ralph tried denying the existence of the beastie, it didn't help. Instead as Mary said, Simon is a seeker of truth, so he decides to discover the true identity of the beast so the boys may overcome their fear.

Won Park said...

I completely agree with Sergio. The quote "The [pig's] half-shut eyes were dim with the infinite cynicism of adult life.” I mostly agree that probably the memory of his parents hid but also hit the things that his parents would have told him to do in the types of situations he was facing. Also, in reference of Sergio's statement of Simon not being selfish showed of how he wouldn't overtake as Jack did over everyone he could. Also, he would listen to everyone's opinions and not only give his idea to the others. By the personality he had, he could have influenced the others as Sergio mentioned, but was murdered by all the boys. He could have changed the way they were acting if he wasn’t killed on the island. These are some of the main points that I agree with Sergio.

Kalif Shear said...

I agree with kevin. "The [pig's] half-shut eyes were dim with the infinite cynicism of adult life" this represent the incredible burden of adult life.