Thursday, October 16, 2008

Imagery and Symbolism

Explain the symbolism in the descriptions of the bodies of Simon and the pilot going out to
sea.

8 comments:

hadar said...

The descriptions of the bodies of Simon and the pilot being carried by the wind to the sea show the atmosphere at the crime scene. They demonstrate the savage climate in the plot, and gives the readers the feeling of chaos.

Sergio said...

This is a simple thought of mine, not a response to Hadar's previous thoughts. Simon's death and it's symbolism are quite interesting. A quote on page 153 says, "Even in the rain they could see how small a beast it was; and already its blood was staining the sand." This is stating that it was still believed that he was the dead beast, beaten to an unfair death. Also, the glowing fish that carried Simon's body out to sea made it seem like if he was angel.

The body of the parachutist, however was carried by the wind out to sea. This kind of symbolizes the natural order of things, and how adult supervision, which creates law and order, will vanish sooner or later by the natural order of events, in this case, it is symbolized by the wind. The dead parachutist was the only "adult supervision", if you may say, that the boys had.

The atmosphere that these bodies had was very calm and silent. It was as if the boys were mourning the deaths of the boys or were unsure of what had just happened and were scared. The atmosphere was filled with silence and death.

Sergio said...

Now, this is a response to Hadar. Not everything has to be a crime or a crime scene. If it was natural habitat and survival instinct, would it become a crime scene? Yes, I agree that it does demonstrate the savagery that has overcome, but I do not think that it gives the reader a feeling of chaos. These moments of death give the reader a feeling of sympathy and confusion, not chaos at that very instinct, but possibly later on as they REVIEW it. I think that the deaths were very natural and silent because it was the first time the boys had ever experimented.

Suz said...

To me the departures of the two corpses symbolized freedom, being let go.
Many on the island want to get off, but with these two departures it seems like the only way is death.
Death is the path off the island, it gives me the idea of losing hope for getting off the island.

MaRy G. Miller said...

I saw that the joint departure of Simon and the parachutist made sense. This is because with the seeker of the truth (Simon) leaves the truth (the beastie was just a parachutist). They were both let off in a way that the author is trying to tell the boys that they would regret letting it go because Simon´s body sways back and forth as if it is hesitating and they should have listened to him.
They are taken by two natural sources, the water and the wind which are as pure as the truth Simon would tell.

hadar said...

Sergio, when I was referring to the descriptions of the bodies I was intending to describe the climate in the island and how it caused the characters to act after the "accidental murder". For instance, when the author describes how depressed Piggy was.

jesi hayes said...

Hadar and Sergio both have interesting points and i neither agree nor disagrre. But i actually think more like Mary and Suzanne. I feel that the departure of the parachutist and Simon are indeed a loss of hope, because as Mary says they held truths that could've stopped the chaos and fear from spreading mingled with savagery.
As the parachutist departs peacefully by air it is like an angel that was sent to give a message that was delivered to Simon, but as he was also killed then it was never spread to the rest of the boys. Simon's death is also angelic for he could be sean as the chosen one for he was the one that saw through the fear annd decided to seek the truth. (He is indeed the searcher of truth isn't he?)

faaBy said...

I think Suzanne's idea of freedom being involved in these scenes is very interesting.
I was going to write about how the descriptions of the bodies being carried away symbolize the fact that in society, many things are both done and forgotten quickly.
However, by reading people's ideas, I strongly agree with the fact that the departures of Simon's and the pilot's body symbolize freedom.